tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5867260065662559631.post386725956220886625..comments2024-03-28T13:30:14.573-07:00Comments on CanSpeccy: How the Liberal-Left Are Destroying Britain's National IdentityCShttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03399620869685840906noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5867260065662559631.post-51604612040346194412013-11-19T08:45:19.551-08:002013-11-19T08:45:19.551-08:00It's only a matter of time before the hatred s...It's only a matter of time before the hatred spills onto the street. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5867260065662559631.post-18201069262676125982011-12-30T13:50:32.510-08:002011-12-30T13:50:32.510-08:00True, it appears unlikely that Britain will again ...True, it appears unlikely that Britain will again be a net exporter of energy.<br /><br />It seems odd, from a strategic perspective, that oil production was ramped up to produce a surplus for export, considering the small size of the reserves, although I suppose the explanation that would be given is that, once oil has been extracted and sold, the profits can be invested thereby increasing future income, whereas oil in the ground yields nothing.<br /><br />But I don't see a low energy future as a bad thing. Much of our energy now is consumed in travel, a rather pointless activity in the age of the internet. Much better spend your money on enhancing your local environment.<br /><br />It is an interesting question what China will do if they run short of juice.<br /><br />But the Chinese are smart people, and perhaps not so greatly interested in global power, seeking only respect and non-interference.<br /><br />If I'm correct about that, they may very well be among the pioneers in the development of a low-energy, high-tech civilization: electric bikes, high density cities powered, perhaps, <a href="http://canspeccy.blogspot.com/2011/04/china-launches-thorium-reactor.html" rel="nofollow">by thorium reactors</a>.<br /><br />It is reported that the Chinese thorium reactor project is headed byJiang Mianheng, son of the former Chinese president Jiang Zemin, which suggests it may be a high priority program.CShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03399620869685840906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5867260065662559631.post-32817714554608913582011-12-30T13:21:41.619-08:002011-12-30T13:21:41.619-08:00True, it is a 2009 graph. I find the coal part of...True, it is a 2009 graph. I find the coal part of that graph the most interesting: New ways to extract coal, new technology, deeper mines, better pumps, more safety, efficient diesel mining equipment, but the decline was simple and steady, the resource is simply exhausted.<br /><br />Yes, I know you will argue that coal was more easily extracted elsewhere, hence the decline in Britain. There is a flipside to this, namely that coal is hard and expensive (also in labour) to extract in Britain *in spite of the efficiency gains due to new technology, techniques, etc*.<br /><br />I am fairly confident that Britain will never again be a net exporter of energy. The discoveries you talk about are blips on the downslope of their energy production (3 billion barrels when Britain has already produced more than 20 billion barrels from large exhausted fields is not a large enhancement of yet-to-produce reserves).<br /><br />As an analogy, look for example at the effects of a recent very large Norwegian discovery on Norwegian output in figure 2 in http://www.theoildrum.com/node/8746<br /><br />You are right about the panicky environmentalist mentality. Earth warming etc, is the least of our problems. But similarly, the current energy crisis is a serious issue which is already biting hard, and will become a contentious issue when the new world powers start to think of "our oil" over there...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5867260065662559631.post-67393405347687771632011-12-30T11:48:30.754-08:002011-12-30T11:48:30.754-08:00Yes, but that chart dates from 2009.
New technolo...Yes, but that chart dates from 2009.<br /><br />New technology has transformed the story.<br /><br />BP now claim 3 billion barrels of N Sea oil reserves. And <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/jul/14/bp-expands-north-sea-oil-fields" rel="nofollow">BP are redeveloping the Schiehallion and Loyal oil fields</a>, which produced 400 million barrels the first time round and are now expected, through the application of new technology, to produce a further 450 million barrels by 2035.<br /><br />The OilDrum is an interesting place but there are too many panicky environmentalists there to provide a balanced view. And they censor rational debate. For example, when I pointed out that Matt Simmons ridiculous claims about BP's Gulf of Mexico oil spill were in flat contradiction with statements made by Jane Lubchenko, head of the EPA, formerly President of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, and a committed environmentalist, my comment was simply deleted. Matt Simmons being beyond criticism at the Oil Drum, apparently, despite, in that case, his acknowledged financial interest, i.e., a short poistion in BP stock.CShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03399620869685840906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5867260065662559631.post-25645348671773691512011-12-30T09:00:02.650-08:002011-12-30T09:00:02.650-08:00Canspeccy, about your comment on British Oil and G...Canspeccy, about your comment on British Oil and Gas you might be interested in the following<br /><br />http://europe.theoildrum.com/node/7057<br /><br />and note that the turnover occurred in 2004.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5867260065662559631.post-7644505771392824882011-12-30T08:14:27.916-08:002011-12-30T08:14:27.916-08:00But it's a far from exact parallel.
For the ...But it's a far from exact parallel. <br /><br />For the British, the chief significance of the campaign against the Europeans in RSA (many descended from 17th century settlers who arrived before some of the African tribes) may have been to create the belief, subliminally, that white people are all racists deserving of extermination.CShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03399620869685840906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5867260065662559631.post-36987647868354236572011-12-29T22:20:08.377-08:002011-12-29T22:20:08.377-08:00And, yes, I see now the point of your initial comm...And, yes, I see now the point of your initial comment.CShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03399620869685840906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5867260065662559631.post-84510570443694732232011-12-29T21:17:01.158-08:002011-12-29T21:17:01.158-08:00But developing the British economy for the benefit...But developing the British economy for the benefit of the population is out of the question in this post-democratic age. The question now is what is Britain's role in the service of the <a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/1107.5728" rel="nofollow">globalist oligarchy</a>.CShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03399620869685840906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5867260065662559631.post-83726817379887953542011-12-29T21:14:53.124-08:002011-12-29T21:14:53.124-08:00Thanks for the rvj link. It looks interesting. But...Thanks for the rvj link. It looks interesting. But my energy level has just crashed: I'll read it in the morning. <br /><br />I understood that most of the UK's private debt is financial (six times GDP), much of it due to <a href="http://www.zerohedge.com/news/gold-rehypotecation-unwind-begins-hsbc-sues-mf-global-over-disputed-ownership-physical-gold" rel="nofollow">rehypothecation endless times by foreign banks and brokers</a> of securities or other loan collateral -- a form of pyramiding that's allowed in London to an extent that is prohibited in the US and elsewhere.<br /><br />As for oil, it isn't that large as a percent of GDP, less than 5%, although because of the increase in price, UK oil revenue is now about <a href="http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article4884.html" rel="nofollow">three times what is was in Thatcher's time</a>.<br /><br />I predict UK oil and gas revenue will continue to grow as new technology is applied to the redevelopment of old fields, and previously <a href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/9b546344-d3ad-11e0-bc6b-00144feab49a.html#axzz1hzXfQ6K6" rel="nofollow">inaccessible onshore gas</a>.<br /><br />Relative to, say, China, Britain is certainly in economic decline. However, there's no reason why the British should not maintain a high standard of living indefinitely. They just need to apply some intelligence to the way they live and invest in the <a href="http://canspeccy.blogspot.com/2011/11/can-england-be-once-more-green-and.html" rel="nofollow">redevelopment of much of their infrastructure</a>.CShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03399620869685840906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5867260065662559631.post-32810835782156487392011-12-29T19:37:38.375-08:002011-12-29T19:37:38.375-08:00The peaking of North Sea Oil production in the Bri...The peaking of North Sea Oil production in the British province of that field in 1999 is the cause of the gigantic pile of debt you are talking about.<br /><br />Incidently, production in the NS started in the late 1970s, just in time to lift England from the Sick Man of Europe status to wealthy Western State under Thatcher rule. <br /><br />In the end, society is about energy flows from source to sink. <br /><br />On the other issue, you may be interested in this<br /><br />http://rvj-blogspot.blogspot.com/2011/12/heresy-in-britain.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5867260065662559631.post-26520203595126479392011-12-29T19:16:32.818-08:002011-12-29T19:16:32.818-08:00Re: There will be riots in English cities again ne...Re: There will be riots in English cities again next summer for two reasons (1) the fast changing demographic, and (2) the decline in North Sea Oil production which is sucking wealth out of the British economy."<br /><br />I don't believe a decline in NS Oil matters. Britain has a floating currency. If they have to import more oil the pound will sink, making British labor more competitive internationally. <br /><br />However, I agree things could turn out badly for the economy in Britain -- they have the World's most gigantic pile of debt: ten times GDP (See bar chart <a href="http://www.debtdeflation.com/blogs/2011/12/23/max-keiser-me-the-uks-950-debt-to-gdp-level/" rel="nofollow">here</a>). If that's not managed successfully, anything could happen.CShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03399620869685840906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5867260065662559631.post-69097638988124762732011-12-29T19:11:44.503-08:002011-12-29T19:11:44.503-08:00"but how will you turn the ship?"
First..."but how will you turn the ship?"<br /><br />First, you'd close the gate on the continuing influx -- obviously.<br /> <br />No jackboots or machine guns required.<br /><br />What you're saying is, since we cannot go back to 1950 without adopting the tactics used by the Israelis on the West Bank, we might as well say "fuck it, let's just swamp the place."<br /><br />Obviously its a lot easier to say that than argue with the politically correct propagandists for total mongrelization of the European populations, but its not the only way or the right way.<br /><br />"The demographic change is permanent"<br /><br />The change that has occurred has occurred. The change that may yet occur has not occurred yet. it can be moderated or reversed. So, no, the demographic change is not permanent.<br /><br />You don't have to expel people to change the contingencies of reinforcement that affect reproductive behavior. <br /><br />For example, no need to provide welfare to polygamists or people with abnormally large families, unless it helps redress the balance, in which case why not?<br /><br />Steyn's reference to H.G. Wells' <i>The Time Machine</i> is interesting, but it doesn't explain what underlies mass migration today, which is simply the drive by business interests to get cheap labor. <br /><br />My impression was that Steyn was mainly interested in provoking animosity toward Islam. This, one might suppose, was the reason for the Tube bombings -- the backlash helped intimidate Muslims. Likewise the crazy Muslim demonstrations with stupid posters saying things like "Europe is the cancer, Islam is the answer." <br /><br />Is that really the work of sincere Muslims or of intel service agents? <br /><br />But business interests that are the driving force behind mass immigration could easily obtain the cheap labour they want (and need if they are to compete globally) by way of a system of <a href="http://canspeccy.blogspot.com/2011/10/ending-unemployment-with-tradable-wage.html" rel="nofollow">wage subsidies for below minimum wage workers</a> that would cost little if anything more than welfare.<br /><br />Such a program would result in full employment and a competitive revival of Western manufacturing.CShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03399620869685840906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5867260065662559631.post-15590088310849980652011-12-29T17:55:53.370-08:002011-12-29T17:55:53.370-08:00I am not disrespectful Canspeccy, but how will you...I am not disrespectful Canspeccy, but how will you turn the ship?<br /><br />The demographic change is permanent, and cannot be reversed (unless mass forced repatriations are done, which is not possible; human rights laws and the sheer numbers involved makes this impossible). <br /><br />On a different continent I had the same argument about a large population of illegal migrants: Someone wanted to depart them all, and I pointed out that to do that you need thousands of trucks, soldiers with guns and the bloody-mindedness to force women and children onto the trucks and dump them over the border where there are no resources. It is shear madness to even propose something like this, a process which will take a thousand trucks rides per day for 6 months without interruptions. (You will need millions of airline tickets and a police state to achieve something like this in Britain.<br /><br />Thus, the change in demography is permanent, and is in fact changing at an exponential rate because of natural growth, and further immigration. <br /><br />I know about Enoch Powell's Rivers of Blood speech (which ended his political career). He seems to have implied that riots will in the end stop this process and perhaps return England to what she was. <br /><br />He was wrong -- it is the English who will pack up to go elsewhere, see for example here:<br /><br />http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2006/08_august/03/emigration.shtml<br /><br />I assure you that the British Elite who cares to stick around will eventually found themselves with a distinctly non-English working class. <br /><br />The compact between white Leftist politicians who import immigrant voters to keep them in power will become the relation between the white English upper crust and the new working class who will despise them (actually, if I consider my own experience, then I believe the upper class will be the first to leave the mess they created by emigrating while they still claim the moral high ground). <br /><br />Mark Steyn alluded to this kind of dystopian outcome in his latest book, when he used the Welshian Eloi and Morlocks as place holders for the left leaning elite and the underclass they are creating.<br /><br />Welsh thought that this kind of society is 100,000s of years in the future, but it is not. It is already here.<br /><br />Ps. I am not one for predictions, but here is one: There will be riots in English cities again next summer for two reasons (1) the fast changing demographic, and (2) the decline in North Sea Oil production which is sucking wealth out of the British economy.<br /><br />I once lived in England, when it was still really English, recognizably so. It is definitely not that anymore.<br /><br />Good luck with your crusade (my people are learning live in the shadows and to do our own thing and to look after ourselves, even if many of are killed and assaulted with the world looking away).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5867260065662559631.post-38317913051752282692011-12-29T16:46:18.640-08:002011-12-29T16:46:18.640-08:00Re: "in spite of your fighting spirit, I do n...Re: "in spite of your fighting spirit, I do not think you can turn this ship around."<br /><br />The prospect does not look good now. But things can change. The English are not afraid to fight and die for a cause. My father's generation willingly enough fought the Nazis. The cowardice that chiefly afflicts the English arises fro a fear of social isolation. <br /><br />As long as the middle class remains paralyzed by the fear of committing a faux pas, of failing the accepted standard of political correctness, they will continue to bear in silent anguish the progressive extinction of their race, culture and national identity. <br /><br />But the fraudulence of the political leadership, including the phony nationalists, Nick, Marmite, Griffin and Tommy, Rotten, Lennon of the EDL, is surely increasingly obvious, even to the most dim-witted Guardianista or nice Tory. <br /><br />The question, then, is whether Enoch Powell's vision of the "Tiber foaming with much blood" will prove a reality, and if so, whose blood? The blood of immigrants who came to Britain in good faith and in accordance with law, or the blood of members of the elite, taken in tumbrils to a public hanging?CShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03399620869685840906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5867260065662559631.post-29169188515390452952011-12-29T14:57:08.901-08:002011-12-29T14:57:08.901-08:00Ha! I thought you were going to say you were the s...Ha! I thought you were going to say you were the sole surviving Tasmanian, or Nova Scotian Beothuk Indian, and I would have to acknowledge guilt by racial association. <br /><br />But in fact what the Europeans are doing to themselves is something that may never have been done before, by the Brits or anyone else. The elites are, as you indicate, destroying their own nations. <br /><br />There are three key aspects to this: economic, political and social. I'm trying to put together some kind of a thesis about this right now. <br /><br />Here it is in brief. <br /><br />The economic factor is the availability of dirt cheap labor (by European standards) in the developing world. Given absolute freedom, the corporate sector would replace virtually all their English workers by foreigners. Not because the English are any more lazy or stupid than other people, but because when you have hundreds of millions of people on the Indian subcontinent, in Asia and in the ME and Africa working for a dollar or two a day, you can obviously find millions of people from those places who are brighter, more energetic and ready to be more loyal to the hierarchy than the majority of Brits, and who will not hesitate to migrate to Britain or any other European country to increase their income by a factor of ten, twenty or more. <br /><br />The political factor is the existence a stooges of the financial and foreign interests: Cameron, Clegg, Milliband, etc., who enable mass immigration. <br /><br />The social factor is the existence of a brainwashed mass of middle-class people whose self-esteem is based on the belief that by permitting genocide of their own people they are somehow morally superior to the nationalists who oppose the genocide. These are the useful Guardian-reading idiots who insure the global plutocratic elite <a href="http://canspeccy.blogspot.com/2011/08/new-american-world-order-how-it-works.html" rel="nofollow"> are free to establish the New World Order</a>.CShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03399620869685840906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5867260065662559631.post-20639462490149893702011-12-29T14:33:58.796-08:002011-12-29T14:33:58.796-08:00Interesting blog you run here Canspeccy, I enjoy r...Interesting blog you run here Canspeccy, I enjoy reading it. But to return to my comment above -- the truly amazing thing is that it was in many cases *the very same people* who have now done it to the English, following in the footsteps of 1970s English Radicals and some others who returned to the UK in 1994. There they just carried on the project. <br /><br />Sorry about being vague, but I do not wish to expand more. Also, in spite of your fighting spirit, I do not think you can turn this ship around. The demography will be determining the outcome, and by causing the demography, the English Liberal Elite determined the inevitable outcome in England (it will also later come closer to home). <br /><br />To expand a bit -- the English Elite walled themselves in exclusive neighbourhoods while the working class bear the brunt of their policies, but eventually, they will also pay for this outcome, in unexpected ways. I have seen similar outcomes elsewhere.<br /><br />BTW, the thoughts about Emma West on this blog are fairly accurate -- one should not ignore the following facts about her (1) She is from Croydon, (2) She is in a working class that is being replaced deliberately by the English Elite, (3) She laments the destruction of "her England" repeatedly in the video. Contrary to what most commentators have to say, I heard sorrow, rather than anger, in her voice. And true to form, the Elite will now strip her down for not adhering to an approved political culture.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5867260065662559631.post-45344021204949462992011-12-29T14:08:24.109-08:002011-12-29T14:08:24.109-08:00"done it to us"?
Oh yeah? Who's &q..."done it to us"? <br /><br />Oh yeah? Who's "us" and how come you're still around, albeit in cowering anonymity, if you've already been genocided?CShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03399620869685840906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5867260065662559631.post-60945278760253165432011-12-29T13:46:51.982-08:002011-12-29T13:46:51.982-08:00I am amazed to see that the English have done it t...I am amazed to see that the English have done it to themselves, after they have done it to us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com